And now you know…the rest of the story
First off let me just say that this has been quite a frustrating weekend, and I apologize if I come off as angry or upset, but quite honestly…I am.
This past Thursday I went to 21st Amendment with a guy named Ben, who I had met 3 days earlier. We had gone out in The Castro and had some drinks, and were starting what would seem like my first real relationship ever…that is until all this shit has gone down.
I learned on our way to 21st Amendment that Ben had his final community service on Monday for 2 DUI’s he had gotten, and spent 5 days in jail. If I’m not mistaken I remember him mentioning this to my friend Melodi in the limo ride from 21st over to a party I thought she was invited to.
I am sort of setting the stage for what happened and will reply to some of the outrageous claims in a bit, sorry if the storyline is a bit disconnected right now, it will all come together in the end.
Melodi and I have been friends for a month or two now…maybe longer. We see each other out at parties and she has been one of the people I spend the most time with when I am out at the various tech events. She helped me thru my tough weekend (the one during the Mimosa Factory / very depressed weekend I had recently)…oh let me clarify right now where Tara Brown is a manipulative liar. Here is an excerpt from her blog post:
I had recently met Nick at the Mimosa Factory event that he organized. When he introduced himself, the first words out of his mouth were that he wanted to commit suicide off the Golden Gate bridge. Me and my companions all looked at each other in complete shock and didn’t have any idea how to respond. Interestingly enough, a few days later, there were a bunch of tweets that Nick Starr has publicly tweeted that he wanted to kill himself . I was later to find out that he has done this a bunch of times and its either a cry for some serious help or a publicity stunt.
Okay first off…it was the SAME DAY…not "a few days later," and as for the fact that I’ve done it a "bunch of times" that isn’t true either. I have wanted to kill myself quite a number of times in my life, and been in and out of the hospital for mental illness and depression. I’ve only posted on twitter that I wanted to kill myself and was driving on the bridge where I planned to do it one other time …not "a bunch of times."
See here is the thing about this Web 2.0 society that from the outside you may not see…there are too many self important, holier then thou, stuck up douchebags. Now don’t get me wrong, there are TONS of great people and some of my closest friends have come from tech events and parties, but there are too many backstabbing, conniving bitches.
Let me jump back into the story of that night and then later show some examples of the lies people tell.
So we arrive at this party. I wasn’t aware of whose house it was and quite honestly barely recognized Tara Brown, the host of the party. There were a bunch of people I did know, and a number which I didn’t. Eddie Codel who has known me longer then almost anyone in San Francisco was there and I remember watching McCain on Letterman on the couch in the living room with him then leaving as the party seemed to be winding down. We played Rock Band earlier in the night, sat around a fire out back, drank, and had a great time.
Ben and I got into a cab and headed back to my place where we spent the night. I woke up the next day and remembered putting my WHITE iPhone on the coffee table in the living room. I didn’t have it with me and that was the last place I remember seeing it. I send messages to Melodi, Eddie, and Coley trying to find out whose party it was, so I could contact them and meet up at some point in the day to get my phone.
I got Tara Brown’s name from a few people and proceeded to try to contact her. Her live.com email address, which I found when trying to google her bounced, so I checked to see if she was on Facebook. We communicated thru Facebook and Twitter. I asked if she had seen my iPhone it was a "white one with no case." She said she hadn’t and that her’s was gone as well and that her dog wasn’t feeling well. We replied a few more times, and I even told her that, "I hope your dog gets better." She said, "but it was a very small group of people and I know everyone very well except you and your friend. "
Here is another lie, because in her blog post she went back on Ben and I being the only people she didn’t know and said, "There were one or two people that I didn’t know but many people vouched for them. " She later went on to say, "I had recently met Nick at the Mimosa Factory event that he organized. " So it wasn’t JUST Ben and I who she didn’t know, there were others as well, but they (along with myself) were "vouched" for by others there.
She messaged me later in the day for Ben’s full name and address for the police report. I didn’t have this information…I had his phone number and A4A profile link, and gave that info to her. I was offline from about 2pm till later on that Friday night when my friend Kara Murphy let me use her iPhone to send a message to Tara via Twitter. My friend Denise Vardakas also let me use her phone later on in the night to check to see if there was a reply.
At the party was also Melodi who told me the last she had heard that the phones were returned to Tara’s place. I left the party shortly after and went over to Tara’s house. She was just leaving, and said she was heading to the police station. She yet again asked for Ben’s information and I hadn’t been able to get to my address book to get his phone number. Sean Bonner was there with as well, and started accusing me of stealing the phones. I tried to explain that …and this is the point that I think most people are TOTALLY MISSING…BUT I LOST MY FUCKING IPHONE TOO! They started to walk away, and then Sean came back and asked if I was coming there to return the phone and had them on me? He then patted my pocket and I was like, "all I have is my wallet" and showed him.
Oh yeah…here is another BLATANT LIE. She posted this on twitter, "Also, @seanbonner did NOT frisk him. More bullshit." YES HE DID! He invaded reached his hand out and ran it along my pocket. Why is Tara lying about so much in her "telling of the story? " Oh that’s right…remember when I said there were manipulative bitches in tech? That’s right…her name is Tara Brown.
Her entire post was spin and an accusatory post trying to make me to be the culprit… How can I be the culprit of my OWN GOD DAMN PHONE? I went to AT&T Saturday morning before the Soapbox races in Dolores Park to get a new sim card for an old Blackberry Curve I had in my closet which hasn’t been used in months.
Oh then let’s bring on the mob mentality of Tara’s friends.
Last I checked, Tara moved here in July 2008, or at least that is the info on her Facebook when she started with a company here after beng with a company in Redmond. I moved here just over a year ago …I am more "local" then she is.
Then comes the assault:
Really? Wait, I’m confused. I am the victim of a theft, yet you are going to "dissapear my ass" and then "beat the snot out of me"? Where I’m from, oh yeah…the United States of America, threats of physical violence are considered assault, a crime. I have done NOTHING but try to get my phone back and give information on someone who may or may not of taken the phones to another person who lost theirs as well, but no by all means keep up the threats of physical violence…and I’ll keep documenting them. If anyone is a criminal here, it is you dpdefillippo (aka J. Adam Moore).
Now let me reply to some of the comments left on her blog post.
Raines on October 18, 2008 Yipes! When I had a laptop stolen last year
Oh yeah…I’m sorry I forgot to mention that since I’ve moved to San Francisco, I’ve had my car broken into not once (where I lost my laptop and all my electronics), not twice (where I lost EVERYTHING ELSE BUT THE CLOTHES ON MY BACK), not three times (where I had my Harmon/Kardon iPod dash mount display stolen), but FOUR TIMES (where I had my entire car stolen and torched). I KNOW what is is like to have things stolen…I wouldn’t wish that feeling on anyone, and certainly wouldn’t steal from someone else. It is like being violated.
J. Adam Moore on October 18, 2008 When he first arrived, I overheard him talking to someone trying to convince them to come. The way he described his relationship with you guys over the phone was dismissive and uncaring.
J. Adam Moore (aka DieLaughing from the twiter post above) is a lying sack of shit. He is even more of a manapulative piece of shit then Tara is. Let me first explain that I DO NOT even have a voice plan with AT&T. I don’t talk on the phone…I text message ALL THE TIME, but NEVER DO I TALK ON THE PHONE. So he saying that I was "on the phone" is a total and complete lie.
Ada on October 18, 2008 A little detective work discovered this not so hidden blog post, which is quite telling on his nature of crooked schemes: http://www.nickstarr.com/2007/11/28/how-to-get-a-free-iphone-or-blackberry-curve/
If you EVER read my blog, I would ALL THE TIME post about deals or special links to reduced prices on items. I was even offered a job blogging for a "Deal" site. I love finding great deals and passing the information along to friends. The method I described wasn’t "crooked" at all. I informed people that Amazon was offering a BlackBerry Curve for a net profit of $50. Who wouldn’t pick up on that deal? They are GIVING YOU A PHONE AND $50!!! Then simply said, you could sell that phone for around $400 at the time, and turn around and get an iPhone. That isn’t crooked or sneaky…it is smart business. Buy something low, and sell high.
robert on October 19, 2008 Good luck with getting to the bottom of this, and if you see that Nick guy kick in the nuts once for me.
Just another example of the mob mentality, and assault.
Jester on October 19, 2008 I’ve met Nick a couple of times, and have many mutual friends with him. Nick may be many things, including a complete drama queen, but I have never heard anyone ever accuse him of stealing anything or being dishonest.
That being said, it’s entirely possible that his friend took your phone.
On the other hand, it sounds like there were far more people there than you could keep track of, and while it’s totally shitty that your phone was taken, you have to admit that leaving a $500 small piece of popular electronic equipment laying around in plain view was not your smartest moment. It sucks, but ultimately it’s your responsibility and your lesson to learn for the future.
And publicly accusing people of a felony without any more evidence than a “queasy feeling” in your stomach is grounds for a libel suit.
Just sayin’
I have met Jester a few times and he has known more intimate details of my life then most people. He knew me…the real me before I even came out. In Tara’s post and in comments people say that, "I am responsible for the loss of her and my phones." Why? Because there was someone there who no one knew, besides me, who may or may not of taken the phones. This is where I want to jump back to an earlier point. Ben’s past was brought up by Ben at the party. Who is to say that someone didn’t decide to use this as motive to put the blame on him and take the phones themselves? There has been quite a bit of finger pointing from people at the party, who I have never met and don’t know anything about. I’m not saying that this is necessarily the case, but it is something someone brought up to me today when discussing this whole mess.
Brad on October 19, 2008 One thing that is key in knowing if Nick was lying, look at his tweets post party. None of them show being sent via a application made for the iphone. So either he’s good at not getting caught or, he’s actually telling the truth.
If you know me, I’m a twitter-aholic. I love the service and use it all the time. IT SUCKED being without a phone and having access to the internet or twitter all day Friday. Here’s the thing…I AM TELLING THE TRUTH! MY IPHONE WAS STOLEN! I am now using my Blackberry Curve with no internet service on it and it quite honestly sucks compared to my iPhone 3G. I used to love Blackberries, but with the iPhone 3G and all the extra apps and 3G network…I don’t want to go back to the BlackBerry…even the new Bold which is coming out. The OS just doesn’t compare to what Apple has done with the iPhone.
Pat on October 19, 2008 What a mob mentality. There is really no evidence that points to NickStarr. Every time he says something on Twitter you all question it. It’s like no matter what he does, you question it. But nothing he has done thus far is really that strange. Then you basically spend this entire blog post accusing him of stealing it - And just in case he didn’t steal it, you qualify it by saying that he’s still responsible because he brought a total stranger in your home.
What about the fact that you had total strangers in your house?
I love how everyone has become an FBI profiler all of a sudden. Oh and then there’s there is this:
@nickstarr If you want to make this easier on yourself just meet me somewhere. Otherwise I’m gonna dissapear your ass.
Frightening.
Maybe you should start to question the other people who were at the party. It sucks when innocent people are accused of something they didn’t do.
Thank you Pat…This goes to my point earlier. There were a lot of people in that house. Why would (well first off) I steal my own iPhone and someone else’s? Secondly, why would Ben steal mine then go to my house and sleep with me? This whole thing is just so frustrating it is really wearing my patience thin.
Tara Brown on October 19, 2008 Someone overheard him at my party on his BLACK phone stating he was “at some bitches party”…..There were not more people there than I could keep track of. Did I mention numbers? Nope, don’t think so. Maybe 20 people at one point max. And I knew them all. Plus, my fiancee Sean and my roommate Eva were also there.
Lying cunt. Again…I don’t talk on the phone, I text you dumb bitch. Then wait…before you said that you didn’t know Ben, myself and a few others…Then I proved you wrong in that you knew me….NOW you are saying you knew everyone? Sounds like YOU need to get your story straight, not me sweetheart. BTW Tara, did you vote for the war before you voted against it?
hey on October 20, 2008 http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickstarr/2885162171/in/photostream/ Nick did have a white iphone.
No fucking shit…I stood in line at the SF Apple store overnight to make sure I would get the white one the night before they came out. Oh and my BlackBerry Curve…which again has been in my closet for months is titanium in color…so even if you want to lie more and say oh that must of been the phone he was on…it couldn’t of been, because it is titanium/silver.
I’m done…this whole mess is just too much…and guess what…IT’S ALL OVER A GOD DAMN PHONE! Tara lost her phone…so did I. Not one person seems to remember that my phone is gone too.
I don’t care what other people are going to say…I know the truth and the truth is that I’m as much a victim as Tara Brown is. If you have my phone, please return it. Thank you.
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Arwen said
am October 20 2008 @ 7:44 am
I didn’t read the whole thing, but the situation sounds whacked. Also, lol @ that guy for spelling oblige as “ablige.”
David K. said
am October 20 2008 @ 7:58 am
Nick, I feel for ya. Seems SF is a haven for douchebags, and despite how it’s citizens on the whole seem to have this sense of “we’re better, more enlightened, more accepting”, they’re really no better than anyone else.
I would also caution you that this is a risk you take when living your life so publicly (via Twitter, blogging, etc). Maybe there are some things going on in your life that are better kept private, or at least within a small circle of trusted friends.
Seriously, though…don’t let these few interactions get in the way of what you want to do with your life. Live in SF and live your life well. Ignore the noise. As long as you pay attention to the douchebags, they’re always gonna be douchebags.
Nick McCabe said
am October 20 2008 @ 8:15 am
It Sucks Nick but to be honest this sounds more high school than high school. Why do neither of you have home and contents insurance!!!
brad said
am October 20 2008 @ 8:19 am
I am the Brad in the story. From an outsiders view I saw that you at least don’t appear to be guilty. This is unfortunately an example of when mob mentality can truly show the negativity of all of our instant/constant connectivity.
When someone like you who shows that you’ve been stolen from more than one time in the past, you know what that feels like. It’s unlikely that you would want to inflict such a pain on another.
For now, just smile and keep your head up, it’s not you who’s done something wrong.
Bob Rogers said
am October 20 2008 @ 9:21 am
Are you going to press charges or get a restraining order again @dpdefillippo OR J. Adam Moore? Repeated threats and he says he is going to make you disappear. I would take those seriously. Makes you wonder what kinda person would be friends with somemone like that.
@kpishdadi said
am October 20 2008 @ 10:17 am
Hi Nick. Don’t know you that well, and I don’t know any of the people mentioned above. It’s never fun to have anything stolen. I had my car broken into this summer and lost a lot of gadgets.
Anyways, just wanted to comment on the beginning of your story. Depression is nothing to take lightly and some people just don’t get that. If you ever need someone to talk to, or feel you might attempt something please send me a dm. I have no issues with listening to ya vent.
Take care,
Kristin
J. Adam Moore said
am October 20 2008 @ 11:17 am
Your phone records will be checked and you will be proved a liar. I tried to introduce myself at the party, and you turned away from me BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ON THE PHONE! We’ve never met, and I AM a local telling you to GET THE FUCK OUT for your own protection and the protection of my friends, because I am afraid that they WILL kick the shit out of you. Right now I can sue you for defamation and gain access to your phone records. Lets take this to court asshole and see who is lying. Keep talking, every time you do you dig a deeper hole.
Nick Starr said
am October 20 2008 @ 11:37 am
J. Adam Moore you are the MAIN one leading the charge against me on this. Ask ANYONE I know, and when I can access my detailed bill online I will show you, that I DID NOT TALK ON THE PHONE during that party. I don’t even have a fucking voice plan on my phone. You obviously aren’t even good at lying, b/c my iPhone was white. Get your facts straight before you go and start spreading lies.
Jones said
am October 20 2008 @ 12:23 pm
J. Adam Moore, you are full of it. You cannot sue for defamation. Say it as much as you want, you can’t do it. Prove me wrong. I dare you. You won’t, because you can’t. You are obviously a child who watches to much law TV. I’ll be waiting for you to prove me wrong. If you’re not all talk, go file your defamation suit and post the details. I won’t hold my breath waiting, punk.
Nick, you bring all this on yourself. You choose to hang around any street trash gutter whore who gives you attention. When you do that, you lower yourself. You know in you heart that, that scum Ben probably stole the Iphone(s). You should come out and say that. Stop making poor decisions. Stop falling in love with every guy who gives you the time of day. Stop being so desperate to be in a relationship. It will only bring you more misery.
Tara also deserves this. Would she leave $500 cash laying around a room full of people? Wait I forgot, everyone was vouched for. Please! I wouldn’t leave a $5 bill lying around you degens. Tara, accept responsibility. You’re a dumb ass for just leaving your iphone out there. Same with you Nick. How did your Ipod escape your site long enough for Ben to swipe it?
Sean Bonner, claim to fame getting engaged on Twitter? Now tough guy is coming to the defense of his fiance with veiled threats. And you’re determining who’s going to be “held responsible” for this? You don’t get to make that determination. It is a legal determination, and quite frankly, there is no evidence to hold anyone responsible, accept in your own mind.
The whole group of you are idiots and need to be lined up and bitch slapped in one swift motion. Grow up, take responsibility, and move on…
Marcus Dawson said
am October 20 2008 @ 2:21 pm
Ok, I was bored at work so I actually read this soap opera.
Nick… you are an idiot! And since you know me, you know that I mean it! Why would you leave that thing anywhere is beyond me and my view is “idiots should be punished”. You won’t do that again now will you.
That being said, these others are … I would say children but most of my teenage cousins act more mature so I really don’t know where to go with that bunch. Rather then trying to solve the problem (where are the phones) they are doing nothing but looking for attention. Here’s an idea, ask AT&T to kill the phone and/or find out where it is. Not sure if the iPhone has that capability but BB’s and many other phones do. Otherwise, get a new one and move on with life.
This little drama was fun to watch, but these people are a bit insane. You lost your phone too, so how exactly you steal from yourself I don’t know.
Last bit on the guy insisting on Defamation and asking for your phone records. He will not get the phone records for that claim, it just won’t happen. I would call AT&T and ask for all your “Call Detail Records” for the past few weeks. Every SMS, every call, every Data burst will be recorded on it (its how they do billing so its all there). See if anyone tried using your phone after you lost it. And perhaps post a bit of it to show that.
Nick, you are never far from drama and tend to be in the center of it rather then watching it. You also tend to keep digging when you should start solving. In this case you are dealing with irrational children, a good first step would have been to state your case (your phone is gone too), and when they showed how crazy they were just to ignore them rather then engaging them. Never engage crazy or irrational people, they will never ‘get it’.
Now, my advice. Get your Call Detail Records, report it as stolen, see if you can figure out who, but don’t fixate on it, and move on with life. The other people will continue to be crazy and irrational and there is not much you can do about that so why try and defend yourself against them (also, their claims get more amusing as time goes on). Just move on with life.
muylani said
am October 20 2008 @ 2:30 pm
dang Nick, I don’t know what to say except I have a a greatly negative confirmation bias with San Francisco. Sorry about the drama and the loss of your phone. Hope it gets cleared up soon and you know peeps got your back.
jester said
am October 20 2008 @ 3:33 pm
Just let it go, Nick. The phone is long gone, and those who have decided you took it will never be persuaded otherwise.
It could show up under a couch cushion in two years and you would still be held somehow responsible for its disappearance.
I also guarantee if the phone(s) were to show up again and with no connection to you whatsoever, you would not get any public retraction or apology.
So why bother with any of this? Document the idiotic threats and keep better track of your stuff in the future.
Michael Collins said
am October 20 2008 @ 3:37 pm
Nick -
All I can say is: wow.
I guess this is one of those moments where with a little age comes a little wisdom (I’m speaking of me, of course!)
Nick, first I hope you’re reported your phone lost or stolen, both to AT&T and to Apple so if anyone tries to re-activate it they’ll get caught.
Second, I hope — née I pray to the Goddess — that you’ve gone to the police and have files a police report against J. Adam Moore for (1) assault, (2) harassment, and (3) for making violent threats. Note to any Judge Judy-philes, assault does not imply physical violence. That’s “battery”.
Seriously, assault dude. Based on his tweets alone. Hopefully you have screen shots. If not, Twitter can be subpoenaed for an archive of his tweets.
Good luck to you my friend!
-mjc
David Markland said
am October 20 2008 @ 3:48 pm
Did you file a police report over your stolen phone?
Also, why no mention of your Twitter suggesting that Ben was lying about the whole situation?
Robbie Martin said
am October 20 2008 @ 3:49 pm
J.Adam Moore, check Nick’s twitter feed. A few months back (like 4 or so I guess) he posted when he signed up for the text only plan with AT&T. I distinctly remember that tweet. As to the color of his phone, sorry dude, its WHITE. When I first met Nick we ate dinner at Brandy Ho’s in the Castro and it was right after the 3G came out we did a case comparison. Mine is black and his was DEFINITELY WHITE.
Nick I know what its like to be accused of stealing something that you didnt steal. I know youre character. Come hang out with me instead next time. And yes, have AT&T kill your phone.
Robbie
Shawno said
am October 20 2008 @ 6:21 pm
I find it ridiculous that they’re holding you responsible for this. Even if Ben did steal the phone(s), it’s not your fault just ’cause you brought him to the party.
It’s funny how these precious web 2.0 babiez have to run to their Twitter accounts and blogs and stir things up when something like this happens. Don’t call your private investigator daddies. Don’t start a Facebook group called “OMG!! My iPhone!!” (or whatever). Go to the cops, make a report. File an insurance claim. Get on with your lives.
Also, anyone who is dumb enough to post blatant threats of physical violence to the Internet, how reliable could their words really be? Furthermore, Nick, please consider some of the advice provided in Jones’ comment. Events like this will continue to happen around you if you don’t manage your life better.
David Markland said
am October 21 2008 @ 12:03 am
And why was Melodi so certain the phones were returned?
Glad the phones have indeed been returned, but there’s either a grand conspiracy out to get yo Nick, or you’re not revealing everything.
anonymous said
am October 21 2008 @ 12:28 am
Can’t the police just triangulate the phone’s location?
Mike said
am October 21 2008 @ 1:26 am
Just a word here that verbal threats are generally not considered assault in the United States:
http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/verbal-threats-as-assault.html
Bob Rogers said
am October 21 2008 @ 5:37 am
Now that the phones have been returned, it’s time for Tara and her friends to say they are sorry. Thieves are the worst kinda people. Being accusing of thievery when are you innocent is even worst. I cannot imagine what you had to go through this weekend. Making it even worse, they made it public. There were threats lodged against you, accusations against you based on hearsay.
Everyone who defended Nick should be commended.
I am very curious. In Tara’s last blog, she said “tell that Nick Starr we are very interested in him.” What did that mean? Did they really say that or did something get lost in translation like a few other statements and reports from that night.
I guess you will never hear an apology since she wants to move on from this.
Pat said
am October 21 2008 @ 1:20 pm
I am so happy you have your phone back. Anyone else buying the bag story? Did your phone seem like it had been outside all weekend? I also noticed Angela has added to the story and jdfilipo made his twitter private.
David Markland said
am October 22 2008 @ 8:06 pm
“Bob” I think anyone who read Nick’s own side of the story who doesn’t believe he was involved in this theft is being a bit daft.
Nick has still failed to explain why his friend Melodi told him the phones had been returned, and then, magically, they were returned. Nick also fails to explain why he claimed that Ben was lying to him about the whole phone situation. Nor has Nick made any mention of reporting the crime to the police.
The last two items are speculative, but the thing with Melodi is pretty damning.
Nick Starr said
am October 24 2008 @ 12:29 pm
David…Melodi was the only one who had told me they were returned. I went over to Tara’s house and she was just leaving. She checked the mailbox and they weren’t there. I left after being felt up by Sean.
Also, I asked Ben a few times, and at first wasn’t sure if he was telling the truth or not, but it doesn’t matter because now he won’t even talk to me anymore, because that cunt Tara Brown suggested he did it, and forced me to ask him if he did. I honestly think that Ben didn’t do it now, and have no clue who did.
I’m just glad they were returned.
Oh and Pat, no it didn’t seem like my phone had been outside all weekend.